Don’t fret, more Pappy is on the way.

If you haven’t seen my review of Pappy Van Winkle 15 please take a look. It’s a fantastic bourbon and I dare say about as complete as whiskey gets to my tastes. The sad part is the allocation is so sparse that it takes a lot of effort to locate bottles. Believe me, it’s worth the trouble, but a pain in the rear nonetheless.

Well, a little relief isn’t too far off if you can wait a few months. I’ve just been informed by Julian Van Winkle that the next allocation of products will go out in March/April time frame. No specifics yet on a firm date, but this will hopefully give you a shot at securing some bottles if you missed this most recent batch of product.

I’d recommend not waiting until then. If your reading this and want to ensure you get a bottle or 4, I’d suggest calling 2-3 local liquor shops in your area. Ask them if they typically get allocated Pappy Van Winkle products. If they do, make them aware of this allocation news so they can be informed. Also tell them to put your name on a bottle.

I’d recommend the 15 above all given it’s price to quality ratio is extremely high. Beyond that, I’d also recommend securing some Old Rip Van Winkle 90 or 107 proof and/or the Van Winkle Family Reserve 12 Year “Lot B”. I did a review of the 90 proof version of ORVW here. You cannot go wrong with any of them, but you know my feelings on the 15.

Yep, it’s silly when we have to plan 3+ months for a Bourbon purchase, but folks, there’s just not a lot of the stuff to put out there. And when the product is this high quality, a little planning is worth it. Good luck to you!

Drink your Bourbon!



  1. Joseph Serapilio says:

    Thanks for the info Jason.Real sound advice.The VanWinkles are great.They always reply to every e-mail promptly.Joe

  2. snakeman says:

    About a week before Christmas, there was a bottle of Pappy 15, 20, and 23 sitting on the shelf at our favorite liquor store.
    Couldn’t make up my mind if I wanted that bottle of 15, and I let sit.
    Was back in on New Years day, and they were all gone, GONE !
    I did ask them to get me a bottle of 15 if they could. We’ll see.
    The price was what was holding me back, but every where I go on the web, the consensus is Pappy 15 is a must have bottle.

  3. Joe, absolutely correct. Julian responds all the time. Great people. Thanks for commenting.

  4. Well, I think if you are a bourbon lover it’s a must have bottle. That’s just one guys opinion but it’s a fine fine whiskey. Good luck snagging one. If I run across any I’ll let you now since I’m always on the look out for some to keep on hand.

  5. Franco Campanella says:

    Jason, thanks for the info. Right after your Pappy 15 review I went to a Binny’s in Chicago and obtained a bottle. It was not on the shelf, but was in the back room. After I asked an attendant, he smiled and said ” one last bottle”. Amazing bourbon. Cheers!

  6. Greg says:

    Jason – I agree that Pappy 15 is complete whiskey, or as balanced as they come. While the price has been climbing over the last couple of years, the “value” is still present at the current cost. Hopefully the price will stay steady for a while. A nice alternative is the Lot B which you mentioned. You also mentioned the ORVW line which is good but in my opinion, is not as consistent as the Pappy 15. Cheers/greg

  7. Thanks for the comment Greg. I’m with you on the Lot B and ORVW 10. Take care and happy new year!

  8. Texas says:

    My Stagg at $72 was my expensive bottle at least through my birthday..but I did get some other Christmas money and Spec’s website in Houston says they have some of the ORVW 107 for $35, so I plan to get that this weekend.

  9. Matthew says:

    I picked up a bottle of Pappy 15 from Binny’s about a week ago – several Lot B (44.00) and ORVW 107 (32.00) are still on the shelf. Also, Pappy 15 (55.00) , 20, 23 are on the shelf at Lush Wine & Spirits on Halsted. Lush is asking a few bucks more, but still reasonable.

    If you are desperate, Bottles in Providence, RI (as of last week) is asking 100.00 for Pappy 15.

    Jason – great blog!

  10. Matthew, thanks a bunch for the tip. Folks, read what Matthew writes – good stuff.

    And thanks for the comment!


  11. JWC says:

    Jason, I really enjoy your blog. I started reading a few weeks ago and really enjoy it. I see some familiar names here in the comments section (howdy Texas! FYI – you may want to call Spec’s beforehand unless you are driving in anyway – their website is notorious for being out of date).

    Did they tell you which bourbons will be released this Spring? I’m assuming the ORVW 10’s and Lot B but what about the 15, 20, 23 and the Rye? All are fantastic stuff.

  12. Thanks for the comment! They did not have a good understanding of exactly which ones but eluded that it would likely be a full product release. I know ORVW, Lot B, and the Pappys came out in the last allocation so I would say the same. I could not find any Rye in my area and few of the stores I shop got any. I’m sure hoping they do because that’s perhaps the one I want the most right now. We shall see.

    Thanks again for the visit!

  13. Texas says:

    Hi JWC.. I was going anyway to spend the money on something, but thanks for the headsup anyway.

    I would really like to try the rye. I have never seen that anywhere.

  14. JWC says:

    Jason, I know you visit SB so I guess you know that the Pappy Rye is currently (but not for too long) a much older whiskey. Very difficult to find here in Houston, TX – much more difficult to find than even the 23yo.

    Texas, I’ve been told that Spec’s doesn’t get any of the Rye and I’ve never bought a bottle there but someone I know says he always buys a few bottles from Spec’s. Strange and I’ll have to talk to Jules to figure out what is going on. A store next to me always gets one (unfortunately just one) bottle a year and they reserve it for me. It is very good stuff – different from the BTAC Saz but just as good (if not better). Best thing is that it is about $20 less expensive than the BTAC Saz.

  15. Texas says:

    Thanks, JWC. $20 cheaper than the BTAC Saz is amazing. Too bad it is so hrad to get.

  16. AaronWF says:

    I’d like to comment on the Van Winkle Family Reserve Rye. That day in early November that my Antique bottles came in, I also scored 2 Pappy 15s; none of these bottles were on the shelf, I had my name on a list for a month or two before the November allocation, having been tipped by @buffalocomstock that Binny’s was the best bet to grab these whiskeys in Chicago.

    I happened to notice some other new bottles on the shelf in the rye section, and what do you know! A handful of the elusive 13 y.o. Van Winkle Ryes! I had not figured this bottle into my budget for that day, but I couldn’t resist so I snatched one up for the same price as a Pappy15 ($50).

    I have to say that I haven’t quite wrapped my head around this bottle. It’s quite different from the Sazeracs (18 & Handy). It’s less lively, more grassy, less hot, more bottomless in grassy-wood finish. Upon reflection, the dominant flavors are more redolent of a whole-grain rye bread than any other rye I have experienced- it’s wholly unique.

    Being a huge fan of the Pappy 15 (and over the moon for the Pappy 20), I trust the care put into a bottle that bears the name ‘Van Winkle Family Reserve,’ but I have to say that my taste buds, while not in any way turned off by this rye, remain a bit confused over this whiskey. I was at the same store less than a week later, and there were no more bottles to be found. I’d snap up another one in a second, though if I had to choose today, I’d go with the T.H. Handy Saz over this one.

    The only other rye I could vaguely compare it to would be Rittenhouse 100. Actually, this comparison brings me some clarity… The Van Winkle is much more serious than the young, bargain Ritt, but I can imagine the Van Winkle flavors developing from where the Ritt sits at 4(?) yrs, though the Ritt may be a bit shallow on fruit.

    Eh, sorry, looks like I wrote a book today! I intend to revisit my bottle shortly, keeping in mind the whole-grain rye bread notes I stumbled upon while writing this. Funny how I’ve learned not to even look for rye bread notes in rye whiskey!

  17. Aaron, thanks for the comment. You know I think it just all comes down to personal preference. We like what we like and no matter if 50 “experts” tell us something is great, if we don’t like it we don’t like it. I have always enjoyed the Van Winkle Rye. To be fair I will say it’s been a LONG time since I’ve had some. Haven’t been able to score any in my area. I’ve also heard that the whiskey in that bottle is a lot older than 13 years of age. Please note, that is rumor only, but if it’s true, that could be a reason why it’s tasting more in the wood flavors. Keep on sippin on it and let me know what you think.

  18. Robert Wesseler says:

    Walked into my favorite liquor store last week. Bought a couple bottles of bourbon. As I was checking out, the owner, who know me well, says “look up”. On the 10 foot shelf behind the register was two bottles of 15. Due the heads up, I got em both.

  19. Good stuff Robert. Glad you were able to lock up a couple. Well done!


  20. Matthew says:

    Update from my previous comment.

    I walked into my local Binny’s (I live in Chicago) and found 10 (yes, TEN) bottles of Van Winkle 12 Lot B and 3 or 4 bottles of ORVW (107) still on the shelf (and now collecting dust). 9 bottles of Van Winkle remain.

  21. Rajesh says:

    Outstanding blog — I was in 2 minds as to whether to post a comment here or on your post reviewing PVW 15 – so I’ll maybe comment on both.
    A great relief to know more PVW is on it’s way — I was fortunate to pick up 2 bottles (the last ones on the shelf) a few weeks ago
    Now to see if I can find some ORVW 107…

    Cheers !

  22. Matthew says:

    Rajesh –

    Binny’s. Three bottles of ORVW 107 on the shelf as of Sunday.

  23. JWC says:

    It’s amazing that someone was able to get 2 bottles of PVW 15 a few weeks ago and that 3 bottles of ORVW 107 are still left on the shelf. Good for y’all! Texas is a huge market for wheated bourbons and the big store down here in Houston (Spec’s) gets a large allocation but the PVW’s, Lot B and ORVW were sold out well before Christmas – turns Pappy fans into hoarders because we have to make our supply last until next Fall. The Spring release is usually not as big (number of bottles).

  24. Texas says:

    JWC…I wonder why Texas is such a big wheated bourbon state. Weller and Water ads were just everywhere back in the 70’s and 80’s..

  25. Rajesh says:

    Thanks for the update ! Something for me to check out…

    I guess it’s down to the fact that either some offerings move slowly in some markets and faster in others — I’ve been in stores in upstate NY where they still have bottles from the 2009 BTAC – but PVW 15 is nowhere to be found – (I consider myself fortunate to have acquired 2 bottles of PVW 15 — and a bottle of the GTS 2010)
    I know of at least 3 stores that still have the Thomas Handy and WLW from 2010 on hand…the only Pappy to be had though is either the 20 or 23 yr — the other offerings are all sold out as is the ORWV

  26. Rajesh says:

    My apologies — I mispelled your name…

  27. Matthew says:

    What are you paying for Pappy?

    Pappy 15: 45.00ish (Binny’s, Chicago), 55.00 (Lush, Chicago), 100.00 (Bottles, Providence).

    Lot B: 44.00 (Binny’s, Chicago)

  28. Rajesh says:

    The Pappy 15 that I picked up was $53-55 in upstate NY…

    Lot B — around 45 (same location)

  29. Nick says:

    Great to hear. I took your advice and called around to my top 3 stores attempting to get on a list for Pappy 15 – but noted the 12 yr “Lot B” as well. I learned one spot has 7 “Lot B” bottles in stock…and two other stores have a total of 5. I plan to grab a few this week. Love the stuff but really hope to get my hands on the 15. Keep up the good work…enjoy all your posts.

  30. Thanks Nick. Glad you were able to locate some Lot B. Hopefully we’ll all get a shot at some 15 this spring. Check out Greg’s site at He has a recent post on this also.